"He rode his bike eight miles to my house at 4 a.m."
People who've known murderers are sharing all the red flags they missed...and their stories are creepy AF.
Here's what people had to say:
1. "When my mom was in high school, there was a guy who was infatuated with her and became very pissed off when she rejected him. She was a waitress, and he came in and sat in her section. He left her half a penny as a tip. The dude went through the effort of cutting a penny in half just for that moment. He later went on to murder a girlfriend of his."
2. "A guy I knew from high school stalked an ex-girlfriend, ran through her sliding glass door, shot and killed her, then killed himself. He had evidently been stalker-ish with some other exes as well. He hid it very well. I knew he had some substance abuse issues, but he had stopped drinking and started going to church. Turns out even that was BS — he was going to the church his ex went to, so he could talk to her."
3. "It wasn’t specifically a red flag, but the guy was 'off.' He swore up and down he was an all-star level NBA player’s uncle, and was just odd in general. He ended up being caught kidnapping, raping, and killing a sex worker...and the DNA was also matched with DNA from another sex worker who’d had the same fate, like, 10 years prior."
4. "There were no clues. He was my friend's younger brother. Seemed like a little bit of an underachieving stoner, but no warning signs of what he was capable of. He and one of his friends broke into the home of an elderly couple, slit their throats, and burned their house down to try to cover it up. All to steal their safe because they thought it had a bunch of cash in it."
5. "Dude was very possessive of his girlfriend and kind of a dick. He ended up strangling her, tossing her body in the trunk of her car, driving to a busy grocery store, and parking it."
6. "Girl I knew in high school is in jail currently for murder. Killed a guy over some drug dispute. Biggest red flag I can think of is that she once pulled a knife on a friend of mine who walked into the bathroom as she (the murderer) was about to beat up some girl in the bathroom."
7. "Had a substitute teacher in middle school who committed a murder/suicide of his wife when she was diagnosed with cancer. Looking back, he seemed massively depressed every time I saw him, but was otherwise very kind. Totally out of left field."
8. "It was attempted murder, as she somehow miraculously survived. A guy I knew growing up. I used to sleep over at his house, as his sister was a friend. He was always off. Very aggressive and violent when picking on his sister. I remember his mom got short with me once when I asked about an injury she had. My friend later told me her brother had stabbed their mom with a pencil during an argument. Many years later, he gets frustrated with his mom while they’re in a car and attacks her. Stabbed her in the face repeatedly with a knife he had on him, and put her in critical condition. He was smiling in his mugshot."
9. "My cousin's husband. When they first got married, he was a decent guy. I thought it was weird that she had a kid that wasn't living with them, but I was young and brushed it off. Over a decade later, I find out he was abusive and she was divorcing him. He shot her outside her workplace. It was on the news. Thankfully he was caught not long after."
10. "I worked with Edward Paul Morris right up until he murdered his pregnant wife and their children. On the surface he seemed like a polite, friendly guy, if a little awkward. He would make small talk with me in the break room, almost always complaining about his wife and stress at home. He treated it like chitchat, but it was clear he couldn't stop thinking about it. When a mutual coworker and I moved into a rental house together, he offered to come mow the lawn. We didn't have curtains up yet, and I was in my new bedroom putting clothes away when I realized he was outside, lawn mower running, but just standing there and staring at me through the window. Creeped me right the fuck out."
11. "I knew a guy who shot an acquaintance of mine. He liked to play a 'prank' where he pointed guns at people to see their reactions. However, it was more of a power trip than anything, and I think he got a sick enjoyment out of it."
12. "Back in the mid-'90s, I had upstairs neighbors who used to play loud music, like, all the time. One time I got so annoyed that I grabbed a broom and started jabbing the ceiling and they stopped. A few months pass, and one day the apartment is just filled with police. It turns out that the neighbors were gang members, murdered someone in a home break-in, and were on the run from police. I never broomed another neighbor ever again."
13. "He asked if I wanted to hang out sometime. He immediately rode his bike eight miles to my house at 4 a.m. We were in seventh grade. He went on to strangle a girl in Central Park a few years later."
14. "I was an elementary counselor in a small town for two years. I knew these two boys, good friends, when they were third and fourth graders. A few years ago, when they were both 16, one murdered the other, buried him on his property, and it was quickly discovered after the boy was reported missing. It wrecked this town. I only knew the boys as 10-year-olds, but am still completely shocked years later."
15. "A person I knew attempted to murder someone, and something I noticed about them was their tendency to stare at people they didn't like. They had done it a bunch in school, and it was always really weird when you would catch them staring at you. They always pretended it never happened."
16. "My childhood friend killed his parents. His dad was my dad’s best friend. Red flags? Drinking at an extremely young age, like 9. Pornography also at that age. He never had a sense of right and wrong. Cruelty to animals. Sexually assaulted other kids in the neighborhood. It reads like a profile of a future murderer. Heavy drug use did the rest of the work, and he killed both of them for oxy."
17. "He was someone who hung out with the same group of friends I did, but people in the group would pick on him. Seemed like a normal guy somewhat, other than a little socially awkward. He got into an argument with someone and ended up cutting the guy's head off with a machete."
18. "He didn’t murder her, but he sure tried. Stabbed 31 times. He was unable to sleep. He was constantly talking about his medication and anxiety and his inability to sleep. He was trying to get a medical leave when his wife left him. He snapped a few weeks later. We didn’t really miss the red flags; we just didn’t expect him to do it since he had never laid a hand on her."
19. "My sister’s fiancé murdered her. Red flags? Well, none really, except he was suddenly into many things that my sister was into. Like 1000000% became his persona. He wasn’t his own person, as he was super clingy and needy. Found out a few weeks before he killed her he was suddenly into guns. She wasn’t. Tried to leave. Murder-suicide."
20. "It’s not that I didn’t notice the red flags, but all the adults seemed to think it would go away if they ignored it. He was creepy AF, carving Nazi and anarchy symbols into desks, walls, and once, the back of his hand. Talked a bunch about death and stuff. You could tell he really liked freaking people out. 15 years later, he kills a guy, and all the parents are so shocked. His parents were so nice. Who could have seen it coming?"
21. "So I worked with a guy, and one day he seemed upset. He got married young, and he feared his wife, who separated from him, was starting to date his ex-best friend. He got this intense look and told me he’d kill them. It seemed like a 'blowing off steam' kind of comment, but I was surprised at the intensity. He was normally an extremely laid-back guy. However, I felt it strange enough that I wanted to walk away. Six months later, he went to his old apartment at 6 a.m., and the two were in bed. He entered their bedroom, put them on their knees, and shot each in the head. He then put the gun to his head and ended it. The girl flinched at the shot, and survived. The new boyfriend died."
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Note: Some responses have been edited for length and/or clarity.
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However, attendees did identify certain traits common to some serial murderers, including sensation seeking, a lack of remorse or guilt, impulsivity, the need for control, and predatory behavior. These traits and behaviors are consistent with the psychopathic personality disorder.What are the 3 signs of a serial killer? ›
The triad links cruelty to animals, obsession with fire-setting, and persistent bedwetting past the age of five, to violent behaviors, particularly homicidal behavior and sexually predatory behavior. However, other studies claim to have not found statistically significant links between the triad and violent offenders.What are the odds of coming in contact with a serial killer? ›
Active serial killers only account for 0.000015%. So there is only a tiny chance you will ever meet any serial killer, let alone one who might attack you.Do serial killers have frontal lobe damage? ›
A recent study has demonstrated that 20 out of 31 confessed killers are diagnosed as mentally ill. Out of that 20, 64% have frontal lobe abnormalities. (1) A thorough study of the profiles of many serial killers shows that many of them had suffered sever head injuries (to the frontal lobe) when they were children.What personality disorder do most murderers have? ›
As a psychoanalyst, Stone's specialty is personality disorders so it is not surprising that most of the mass murderers in his study were diagnosed with antisocial, psychopathic, narcissistic or paranoid personality disorder.What is the psychology behind murderers? ›
The most common psychological trait among serial killers appears to be extreme antisocial behavior—they lack empathy, appear incapable of remorse, have little regard for laws or social norms, and have a strong desire to exact revenge on individuals or society at large by committing violent acts.What does the brain of a serial killer look like? ›
People who do the worst things often have troubled brains.
On SPECT, the brains of murderers show abnormal activity in a variety of brain regions, especially the prefrontal cortex involved with empathy, judgment, and forethought.
At 26.2 new people per day, the average American meets 717,225 people throughout their lives, of which 10.76 are likely to be unapprehended murderers.Who do serial killers target the most? ›
Serial predators often target the most vulnerable members of society. In the United States, the homeless and sex workers are frequent victims, but who is vulnerable varies from country to country.Are serial killers mentally challenged? ›
It is true that severe mental illnesses are found more often among mass murderers. About one in five are likely psychotic or delusional, according to Dr. Michael Stone, a forensic psychiatrist at Columbia University who maintains a database of 350 mass killers going back more than a century.
Our study found that affective murderers lacked the prefrontal functioning that can control aggressive impulses.What do serial killers have in common neurological? ›
In other words, the deficiencies commonly found in serial killer brains are, unsurprisingly, connected to behavioral results such as reduced empathy, over-confidence, increased violence, fearlessness, impulsivity, and so on—all of the traits we think of when we picture a serial killer in action.What personality disorder is associated with criminal behavior? ›
Individuals with antisocial personality disorder often violate the law, becoming criminals. They may lie, behave violently or impulsively, and have problems with drug and alcohol use. Because of these characteristics, people with this disorder typically can't fulfill responsibilities related to family, work or school.What is the most common mental illness in murders? ›
US and international to date research suggests that individuals with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are responsible for approximately 10% of all homicides in the United States. For mass killings, the percentage is approximately 33% (see “Serious Mental Illness and Mass Homicide”).What serial killers have personality disorders? ›
- Ted Bundy (1946-1989)
- Andrei Chikatilo (1936-1994)
- John Wayne Gacy (1942-1994)
- Jeffrey Dahmer (1960-1994)
- Wang Qiang (1975-2005)
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) states that the motives of serial killers can include anger, thrill-seeking, financial gain, and attention seeking, and killings may be executed as such. The victims may have something in common; for example, demographic profile, appearance, gender or race.What do serial killers fear? ›
One explanation for the latter phenomenon is that many serial killers are insecure individuals who feel compelled to kill due to a morbid fear of rejection. In many cases, the fear of rejection seems to result from having been abandoned or abused by a parent.Why do serial killers lack empathy? ›
When people with psychopathy imagine others experiencing pain, brain regions associated with empathy and concern for others fail to activate or connect with brain areas involved in emotional processing and decision-making, researchers report.What is the main trait of a visionary killer? ›
The visionary type attributes his crimes to visions or voices directing the killing. This type could be termed psychotic. The mission-oriented killer sees his goal as eliminating an identifiable group of people such as prostitutes or young women.Are all serial killers narcissists? ›
Not all narcissists become killers but there is a growing body of evidence to suggest that many killers, particularly serial killers, exhibit many of these narcissistic personality traits. The killers in this list each display at least five and, in some cases, all of them.
Compared with the other two groups, the 200 men who had committed homicide showed significantly reduced gray matter in several brain regions that play important roles in behavioral control and social cognition. Men who had committed homicide showed significantly reduced gray matter in several brain regions.Are killers born or made? ›
In The Anatomy of Violence, criminologist Dr. Adrian Raine says that, “Genetics and environment work together to encourage violent behaviour.” Therefore, it seems like there are various factors namely, genetics, environment, trauma and personality traits that contribute to the making of a serial killer.What gene does a serial killer have? ›
They found it in Monoamine Oxidase A (MAOA), which has been credited with being the “most common denominator” amongst serial killers.What are the two types of killers? ›
While no two serial killers are the same, everyone can be classified into one of two large groups: an organized, or a disorganized serial killer. Former FBI profiler Roy Hazelwood helped create the FBI's dichotomy approach to better understanding serial killers.What part of the brain controls serial killers? ›
They found that many of the killers had abnormalities in the front sections of the brain — the so-called frontal lobes. "In the normal person the frontal lobe is one of the most highly active areas of the brain," says Buchsbaum, calling up an image on his computer.What is it called when serial killer takes eyes? ›
Earl Bulford's jars filled with human eyes, enucleated from victims in "The Eyes Have It". Enucleation is the medical term used to refer to the surgical removal of the eyes.Are serial killers lonely? ›
Those traits are an integral part of a serial killer's personality. Generally, the serial killer is a lonely person, cold, distant, callous, and ruthless in his violence. He entices his victims with an apparently charming but deceitful and manipulative approach.Which country has the most serial killers? ›
1. United States — 3,204. When it comes to serial killers, the United States leads the way, and the race isn't even close. Not only did the US write the book on serial killers there are also about a billion books covering the more than 3,000 serial killers from the US.Which state has most serial killers? ›
|Rank||US State||Adjusted Number of Serial Killings Per 1 Million|
- Police/security official.
- Military personnel.
- Religious official.
Generally, serial killers select their victims based on certain physical and/or personal characteristics. When a serial killer begins their hunt for human prey, it is almost always true that they know absolutely nothing about the person who is to become their victim.Who is the number 1 serial killer in the world? ›
The most prolific modern serial killer is arguably Dr. Harold Shipman, with 218 probable murders and possibly as many as 250 (see "Medical professionals", below).What is a serial killers favorite color? ›
Studies on the effects of LSD (& other hallucinogenic drugs) have shown drawings/paintings by "crazy" folks with much more yellow as the effects advanced. Yellow was said to be Einstein's favorite color as well as the favorite color of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer.What is a signature for a serial killer? ›
Crime Scene Calling Cards
A signature is defined as the name of a person as written by himself or herself: a distinctive mark or characteristic indicating identity. Signatures are not solely the purview of murderers but are also often used by serial rapists and stalkers.
Usually, late bed-wetting is due to a medical condition, or the result of emotional abuse. But there may be some connection between late bed-wetting and psychopathy. And, as mentioned above, the environment in which a child is raised can be a factor in how violent they become later in life.What percentage of serial killers are intelligent? ›
Organized serial killers have a slightly higher average IQ than do their disorganized counterparts, with a 99.2 average. Disorganized serial killers have a 92.8 average, with the average IQ among all serial killers having a 94.7 average.Is being a killer genetic? ›
Yes, there are certainly both genetic and environmental factors that occur with higher regularity among serial killers.Do serial killers have low self esteem? ›
Serial killers frequently have low self-esteem, complicated by some type of sexual dysfunction. Many were themselves victims of sexual abuse and/or were raised in violent households. They tend to be introverted and friendless and may maintain unhealthy ties to a family member, often the mother.What is a Hybristophilia? ›
sexual interest in and attraction to those who commit crimes. In some cases, this may be directed toward people in prison for various types of criminal activities.What are 4 traits of a serial killer? ›
Serial killers differ in many ways, including their motivations for killing and their behavior at the crime scene. However, attendees did identify certain traits common to some serial murderers, including sensation seeking, a lack of remorse or guilt, impulsivity, the need for control, and predatory behavior.
The Macdonald triad refers to the idea that there are three signs that can indicate whether someone will grow up to be a serial killer or other kind of violent criminal: being cruel or abusive to animals, especially pets. setting fire to objects or otherwise committing minor acts of arson. regularly wetting the bed.What signs are serial killers usually? ›
Astrology website ZodiacSign.com went through a dataset of 485 serial killer birth dates and found that Cancer, Pisces, Sagittarius, and Scorpio topped the list, with 46 serial killers each.What color eyes do serial killers have? ›
Those with brown eyes were the most common on the list with 25 killers having dark eyes, whereas just 14 had blue eyes. Dark hair was also most common with 35 killers having black or brown hair, just three with blonde hair and one with red hair.What signs are more likely to be serial killers? ›
According to the video, people with the star signs Pisces, Sagittarius, Gemini and Virgo are the most likely to become serial killers.What is the most common month that serial killers are born in? ›
Welcome to November, the month when, according to some studies, serial killers and mass murderers are most likely to be born.What are the two types of serial killers? ›
Four types of serial murderers are identified: the 'visionary,' the 'mission-oriented,' 'hedonistic,' and 'power/control-oriented.What do psychopaths eyes look like? ›
The various suggested characteristics of “psychopath eyes” seem to echo the general belief that people with ASPD have no emotions to show. These descriptions include: dead, flat, or reptilian-like eyes. very dark irises, or eyes that appear black.What's the average IQ of a serial killer? ›
The average person has an IQ of around 95-105. The average serial killer, according to The Serial Killer Information Center, has an IQ of 94.5. Slightly below the lower side of average.What is the month of most killers? ›
It's widely considered that most serial killers are born in the month of November, though how that compares to reality is another thing entirely. For a start, the phrase 'serial killer' is more of a concept than a locked-off definition, and where does one start chronologically?What country has most serial killers? ›
- United States — 3,204. When it comes to serial killers, the United States leads the way, and the race isn't even close. ...
- England — 166. ...
- South Africa — 117. ...
- Canada — 106. ...
- Italy — 97. ...
- Japan — 96.